[hackmeeting] otra forma de accion: llamarlos a su casa xD

merce en grn.es merce en grn.es
Mar Dic 3 13:14:04 CET 2002

esta  es  buena. Estan publicando el telefono personal del artifice de
la  TIA (que recuerdos mortadelescos) del Pentagono y piden a la gente
que  le  llame.  ¿Seria  muy  dificil  tener el telefono de Pique para
preguntarle a quien hemos de llamar para el spam?



FC: SF Weekly columnist suggests surveilling John Poindexter at  home

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"Transcript of Pentagon briefing on Poindexter's 'TIA' program"



    Calling All Yahoos
    Worried about what John Poindexter's up to as federal information
    czar? Call his home number and ask.


    I learned, Iran-Contra
    conspirator Adm. John Poindexter had been made head of a Pentagon
    division that would compile a vast database of every financial,
    medical, employment, school, credit, and government record for every
    American, so that law enforcement and spooks might better spy on us.

    Still, there's always a bright side: Perhaps Adm. Poindexter may be
    able to also use his new database as a force for good, to divine
    exactly why America has gone so terribly, terribly wrong.

    Optimistically, I dialed John and Linda Poindexter's number -- (301)
    424-6613 -- at their home at 10 Barrington Fare in Rockville, Md.,
    hoping the good admiral and excused criminal might be able to offer
    some insight. A pleasant-sounding woman I think might have been Linda,
    the former Episcopal priest and now effusive Catholic, answered the


    I urge modern California founding fathers and mothers to embark on a
    similar campaign of social impropriety: Call Poindexter's home number,
    all of you, several times a day. If you get Linda, ask about her
    conversion from Episcopal priesthood to Catholicism; if you get John,
    ask why he needs our tollbooth records.

    For those of you revolutionaries with private investigator friends,
    ask for even more sensitive information on Reagan's former national
    security adviser. I'd be glad to publish anything readers can
    convincingly claim to have obtained legally.




    The SF Weekly's column by Matt Smith in the Dec 3 issue points out
    that there may be some information that John M. and Linda Poindexter
    of 10 Barrington Fare, Rockville, MD, 20850, may be missing in their
    pursuit of total information awareness.  He suggests that people with
    information to offer should phone +1 301 424 6613 to speak with that
    corrupt official and his wife.  Neighbors Thomas E. Maxwell, 67, at 8
    Barringon Fare (+1 301 251 1326), James F. Galvin, 56, at 12 (+1 301
    424 0089), and Sherrill V. Stant (nee Knight) at 6, may also lack some
    information that would be valuable to them in making decisions --
    decisions that could affect the basic civil rights of every American.

    Some people are suspicious that the degenerate Poindexter's Total
    Information Awareness system will be used to harass and track the
    activities of people who some significant fraction of society disagree
    with.  They fear a replacement of today's general tolerance (and
    official blindness to one's Bill-of-Rights-protected activities such
    as speech and association), with specific harassment of those whose
    names pop up in the database.  Such harassment of people who are not
    reasonably suspected of criminal activity would destroy much of value
    in our society, such as the presumption of innocence and the "live and
    let live" philosophy that encourages diversity.  Offering dissidents
    "a death of a thousand cuts" by constantly harassing them and denying
    them the privileges of ordinary life would be far worse than charging
    them with a (bogus) crime, which they could clear up merely by
    demonstrating their innocence in court.

    It would be good to have an early public demonstration of just how bad
    life could become for such targeted citizens.  While ratfink's system
    is probably not working yet, and a large part of it is classified,
    much of it can be manually simulated for demonstration purposes.
    Public records can be manually searched and then posted to the net by
    people who happen to be looking there for something else.  Many
    Internet public records search sites also exist; try searching for
    "People finder".  (Matt Smith at matt.smith en sfweekly.com has offered
    to "publish anything that readers can convincingly claim to have
    obtained legally".)  Photographs and videos of the target, their
    house, car, family, and associates, can be made and circulated to
    demonstrate facial recognition techniques.

    Employees at various businesses and organizations such as airlines,
    credit card authorizers, rental-car agencies, shops, gyms, schools,
    tollbooths, garbage services, banks, taxis, honest civil servants and
    police officers, and restaurants could demonstrate denial of service
    to such targeted people.  A simple "We won't serve YOUR KIND OF
    PEOPLE" would do, as was practiced on black people for many decades.
    More subtle forms of denial of service are possible, such as "You've
    been 'randomly' selected as a security risk, I'll have to insist that
    [some degrading thing happen to you]".  Or merely, "I can't seem to
    get this credit card to work, sir, and those twenties certainly look
    counterfeit to me."

    Those with access to DMV and criminal records databases, credit card
    records, telephone bills, tax records, birth and death and marriage
    records, medical records, and similar personally identifiable
    databases could combine their information publicly to assist in the
    demonstration.  This is how TIA is intended to work -- the government
    would get privileged access to all these databases, access that the
    rest of us do not normally have.  But some of us have access to
    various of these databases today, and can demonstrate how the TIA
    system might work.

    People who associated closely with such a targeted individual, such as
    their families, relatives, friends, neighbors, protective secret
    service agents, and business associates, might find themselves swept
    up in the information dragnet.  Such a demonstration would graphically
    reveal the societal dangers of deploying such systems on a wide scale
    against a large number of citizens -- preferably early enough that
    such a deployment could be prevented, rather than reversed after major
    harm was caused.

    Even if some of the information that people end up revealing or using
    about such targeted scumbags is incorrect, such a public demonstration
    would highlight the damaging effects that incorrect database
    information can have on innocent peoples' lives, when used to target
    them for harassment without due process of law.  When this happens to
    innocents under classified or secret systems such as the No-Fly lists,
    the public seldom finds out about it.

    All in all I think such a demonstration would be highly educational,
    as well as newsworthy and entertaining.

    John Gilmore

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