[Grey-Walter] Materialismo y vida artificial

Juan J. Merelo Guervós jmerelo at geneura.ugr.es
Tue Sep 30 08:07:03 CEST 2003


Hola,
Es mi primer mensaje a la lista, así que supongo que tendré que
presentarme; me llamo Juan Julián Merelo, y trabajo en la U. Granada. Me
metí en esta lista a través de Lluis, y finalmente Miquel, aunque ya
recibía algún mensaje en la lista Alife de Lluis. 
Acabo de leerme este artículo:
http://ipsapp008.kluweronline.com/content/search/5010/21/9/abstract.htm?Action=view&collection=kap&QueryZip=j%3D5010+and+%28%28thinking+thing%29%3Cin%3Ebody%29+AND+DDATE%3C%3D09%2F30%2F2003&ViewTemplate=V1.hts&ResultTemplate=s1.hts&ResultField=11E2E2E23080&VDKVgwKey=%5C%5Cipsnetapp001%5Chome%5Cjournals_protected%5CKAP_MIND%5CIssues%5C2002-12-1%5Ctexts%5Ckap.390424.html&DocOffset=2&J=5010&I=21&A=9&T=0&U=1&vLoc=S1&hUAIN=1&VPgNum=1

How Would You Know if You Synthesized a Thinking Thing?
Michael Kary
Chaire en Gestion des Bioindustries, Université du Québec à Montréal,
and Department of Mathematics, Boston University, Boston, MA, U.S.A. 

Martin Mahner
Center for Inquiry –- Europe, Rossdorf, Germany; E-mail: mahner at gwup.org

Abstract

We confront the following popular views: that mind or life are
algorithms; that thinking, or more generally any process other than
computation, is computation; that anything other than a working brain
can have thoughts; that anything other than a biological organism can be
alive; that form and function are independent of matter; that
sufficiently accurate simulations are just as genuine as the real things
they imitate; and that the Turing test is either a necessary or
sufficient or scientific procedure for evaluating whether or not an
entity is intelligent. Drawing on the distinction between activities and
tasks, and the fundamental scientific principles of ontological
lawfulness, epistemological realism, and methodological skepticism, we
argue for traditional scientific materialism of the emergentist kind in
opposition to the functionalism, behaviourism, tacit idealism, and
merely decorative materialism of the artificial intelligence and
artificial life communities.

No sé si podréis bajaros el PDF, si no os lo envío. Viene a expresar la
imposibilidad de crear una mente fuera de su entorno actual, es decir,
el cerebro, igual que no se puede crear un ordenador de verdad con gomas
y bolas. Lo que argumenta es la cuestión de que muchas funciones no
pueden separarse de la materia que los ha creado. 
Es un poco pesado, porque está escrito por dos filósofos, pero merece la
pena leerlo. Hasta pronto!

JJ




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